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[Banditking]

They scared…

‘Hopeless and broken’: why the world’s top climate scientists are in despair

Exclusive: Survey of hundreds of experts reveals harrowing picture of future, but they warn climate fight must not be abandoned

www.theguardian.com

They scared…

‘Hopeless and broken’: why the world’s top climate scientists are in despair

Exclusive: Survey of hundreds of experts reveals harrowing picture of future, but they warn climate fight must not be abandoned

www.theguardian.com

This is the first post with politics in it in this thread. Read the article.

 

[goldmom]

That dawg is worn out. I have no interest in discussing Covid. None. I suffered for two or three days with it. Lost a best friend due to it.
Y’all can run with yet more discussion long into the night…

I bet all of us know of at least one acquaintance or co-worker who contracted this illness.
And had it at various iterations over these last four years at some point. Heck my sister had it last month.
Unless those tests are fake too. 😳

 

[GeddyLee09]

I bet all of us know of at least one acquaintance or co-worker who contracted this illness.
And had it at various iterations over these last four years at some point. Heck my sister had it last month.
Unless those tests are fake too. 😳

 

[GeddyLee09]

I bet all of us know of at least one acquaintance or co-worker who contracted this illness.
And had it at various iterations over these last four years at some point. Heck my sister had it last month.
Unless those tests are fake too. 😳

Remember when the airlines were testing all passengers and every airport had stations set up where you could get tested for xxx dollars so you could fly? The airlines and governments required those for travel and entry then again to leave. I always wondered how much money these companies made and what percentage of the tests actually came back positive where the passenger could not fly. One would think these results would follow the same pattern as regular testing.

 

[trunole1]

Paul Harvey right?

 

[fsu1jreed]

We got so lucky with COVID...if it had be the Spanish Flu, which was only a little worse comparatively, it would have gotten pretty ugly. COVID is the outlier with respect to pandemics, not the norm

 

[GeddyLee09]

We got so lucky with COVID...if it had be the Spanish Flu, which was only a little worse comparatively, it would have gotten pretty ugly. COVID is the outlier with respect to pandemics, not the norm

Lucky? What about the masks, vaccines, social distancing and lockdowns? I'm not sure it was just luck. I would have to see the numbers on deaths from Spanish flu and how it broke down by age ect...

 

[noletaire]

We got so lucky with COVID...if it had be the Spanish Flu, which was only a little worse comparatively, it would have gotten pretty ugly. COVID is the outlier with respect to pandemics, not the norm

What made the difference?

 

[fsu1jreed]

Lucky? What about the masks, vaccines, social distancing and lockdowns? I'm not sure it was just luck. I would have to see the numbers on deaths from Spanish flu and how it broke down by age ect...

Covid - 7+ million

Spanish Flu - 40 million

We had better safety measures. Spanish Flu the world wasn't as interconnected

 

[fsu1jreed]

What made the difference?

A number of different things

 

[billanole]

Excellent analysis.

No analysis. Just an honest statement. You kids can discuss Covid until the cows come home. Not me.

 

[billanole]

This is the first post with politics in it in this thread. Read the article.

Why is politics on this forum so important to you? The “rules” suggest that we avoid the politics. There are other outlets.
You talked in an earlier thread about more genteel subjects such as travel, art, family, Tallahassee centric posts…
Start one.

 

[noletaire]

A number of different things

Anemic

 

[Banditking]

Why is politics on this forum so important to you? The “rules” suggest that we avoid the politics. There are other outlets.
You talked in an earlier thread about more genteel subjects such as travel, art, family, Tallahassee centric posts…
Start one.

You know what? You make a good point.

 

[fsu1jreed]

Anemic

Technology, interconnected of the world, world war, etc.

 

[trunole1]

Covid the result of Gain of Function research?

 

[trunole1]

Unsettled Science?

 

[GeddyLee09]

Unsettled Science?

View embedded media

Hmmm. Media scare story to try to drive up prices. This is why I don't pay attention to the media. The scarier part of this is that there are people that actually believe this crap.

 

[GeddyLee09]

Covid the result of Gain of Function research?

But Fauci said there wasn't any of that. (Muffled laughter)

 

[noletaire]

Hmmm. Media scare story to try to drive up prices. This is why I don't pay attention to the media. The scarier part of this is that there are people that actually believe this crap.

A perfect example is a certain segment of this board that sucks down those stories like RC cola... and if you question it, there's a meltdown followed by accusations of being a "tin foil head'.... (muffled laughter)

 

[GeddyLee09]

A perfect example is a certain segment of this board that sucks down those stories like RC cola... and if you question it, there's a meltdown followed by accusations of being a "tin foil head'.... (muffled laughter)

 

[noletaire]

I feel like my posts are being weaponized against me. I need a “safe place” fast

 

[fsu1jreed]

Wow. So, it's one sided? There's another elephant in the room we haven't mentioned. Slightly higher than the nominee.

Did I say it's one sided? No, but the grading curve drastically changed in the mid 2010's

 

[GeddyLee09]

Did I say it's one sided? No, but the grading curve drastically changed in the mid 2010's

Mid 2000's you mean.

 

[trunole1]

32 Climate predictions proven false?

 

[trunole1]

Rational discussion on climate. Well worth the time IMO

 

[goldmom]

Greta’s moved on…Anti-Semitism is now the Flavor of the Day and her parents have found a way to monetize it.

 

[GeddyLee09]

Greta’s moved on…Anti-Semitism is now the Flavor of the Day and her parents have found a way to monetize it.

When someone tells you who they are, believe them. Greta's credibility (if she had any) is quickly dissolving. Probably just trying to get clicks with her crowd.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231115-german-anti-semitism-commissioner-greta-thunberg-hostile-to-israel/

 

[GeddyLee09]

32 Climate predictions proven false?

View embedded media

We're going to freeze.
We're going to starve.
We're going to drown.
We're going to cook.
Oh well, something bad is going to happen.

 

[trunole1]

We're going to freeze.
We're going to starve.
We're going to drown.
We're going to cook.
Oh well, something bad is going to happen

And it is all the fault of mankind! Empty your wallet and give the $$'s to the grifters to save the planet.

 

[noletaire]

If we would all just drive battery powered cars, we could save the planet from the "climate apocalypse"... or you could drive a 8 cylinder Tundra truck....

 

[GeddyLee09]

If we would all just drive battery powered cars, we could save the planet from the "climate apocalypse"... or you could drive a 8 cylinder Tundra truck....

If someone could show me a tangible benefit from driving an electric car I would consider one as a second vehicle. However, saving the planet from the upcoming hoax of the year/decade wont do it.

 

[goldmom]

There’s ONE place between Jax and Tally to charge a Tesla and it’s always got folks charging up - the Busy Bee in Live Oak. I am not familiar with its universality for all models of EV’s and I’m not sure there’s room for other manufacturers charging stations if they stay brand specific.
I might be interested in a hybrid vehicle but for now EV’s are not in my future.

 

[GeddyLee09]

There’s ONE place between Jax and Tally to charge a Tesla and it’s always got folks charging up - the Busy Bee in Live Oak. I am not familiar with its universality for all models of EV’s and I’m not sure there’s room for other manufacturers charging stations if they stay brand specific.
I might be interested in a hybrid vehicle but for now EV’s are not in my future.

That stretch is not exactly loaded with quality places to stop, and that Busy Bee is always packed. Not Bucees packed but still crowded. Some of those places along there are right off the set of Deliverance.

 

[goldmom]

That stretch is not exactly loaded with quality places to stop, and that Busy Bee is always packed. Not Bucees packed but still crowded. Some of those places along there are right off the set of Deliverance.

That’s how they’ve been for 50+ years. You just have to know how to talk and you’ll be fine.

BTW Biggest free for all fight I ever saw was at 2 AM in the McDonald’s at that Live Oak exit after a uf-Noles game in Tally.
Got out of there very fast.

 

[GeddyLee09]

For what it's worth, the Tesla charging platform (NACS) has been adopted by almost all major manufacturers at this point.

Only Ford and GM are online everyone else wont be until late 24 or 25.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a44388939/tesla-nacs-charging-network-compatibility/

 

[GeddyLee09]

That’s how they’ve been for 50+ years. You just have to know how to talk and you’ll be fine.

BTW Biggest free for all fight I ever saw was at 2 AM in the McDonald’s at that Live Oak exit after a uf-Noles game in Tally.
Got out of there very fast.

I was at that exit a few weeks ago and some clown tried to rob the gas station in the middle of the day. I guess he didn't notice the annual convention of FHP going on in the parking lot. Those places are always entertaining.

 

[Banditking]

If someone could show me a tangible benefit from driving an electric car I would consider one as a second vehicle. However, saving the planet from the upcoming hoax of the year/decade wont do it.

I’ve considered full ev and phev. I test drove a bmw i4 and it was fine. I’ve also test driven a Kia ev6. The latter was fun to drive. Also looked at the genesis 80 electrified. The dual motor acceleration is crazy at that price point. That said, that kind of acceleration is largely impractical. I like the idea of lower energy prices, potentially. But the premium for it is high and I wouldn’t trust it other than as a daily commuter where I charge it at home. I do not want to have to plan for where I might be able to get energy for the car. There are not enough high speed chargers available and there are too many reports of them being broken for my taste. I’m still considering it because my wife has a car. But, I’m leaning toward hybrid for my next purchase, possibly plug-in. It’s hard to beat the economics of my now 10 year old Mazda 6, which I bought new for 25k.

 

[trunole1]

The problem with EV's is the demand for electrical energy from power plants powered by fossil fuels.
Nuclear and natural gas powered plants are the only answer to solve the problem. What is the cost of replacing the batteries and pollution the dead batteries cause?

 

[GeddyLee09]

The problem with EV's is the demand for electrical energy from power plants powered by fossil fuels.
Nuclear and natural gas powered plants are the only answer to solve the problem. What is the cost of replacing the batteries and pollution the dead batteries cause?

Since around 60% if the electricity generated in the US comes from fossil fuels trading a gas car for an EV is a wash in that department. You're trading the use of one fuel type only to increase demand on another. If there was an increase in nuclear and renewables to that 60% mark then it could be a good trade in that respect. I could also charge at home utilizing mainly solar but that brings me to the next draw back the batteries. If the lifespan of a battery is 8 years your range or capacity would begin to degrade before that which would reduce your range. Add to that the cost of the batteries and you're looking at replacing a EV every 5 years or so. In addition, where do these old batteries go? How do we dispose of them? What issues does that cause? Making the batteries is another issue not discussed. What effect will that have with increased EV usage.

I like the hybrid idea as the non-plug in types cut fuel usage without a lot of the added problems of a full EV but for now it seems moving to an EV is trading one problem for another.