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The Jax native and Gator commitment was anticipating the FSU offer before he picked UF back in June, but it didn't come despite some visits and a camp effort in town. As he has been flashing as a senior as a jumbo wideout, who has multiple three-touchdown games as a senior after notching 9 TDs as a junior.

Gelsey's father, Jamal, is a big FSU fan and has long campaigned for that offer. Now that it is in, the Gelsey camp tells Rivals a return to Tallahassee is going down, they're just not sure when. It is worth noting that the summer trips the recruit took to town were not considered an official visit, so it looks like FSU can foot the bill and try to flip the Gator pledge that way should it please.

We'll stay on this one...

On Tuesday's edition of the Osceola's Seminole Sidelines, Patrick Burnham, Charles Fishbein and Nick Carlisle discuss FSU's 2025 class now that receiver C.J. Wiley has de-committed. Who is visiting this weekend and what's next for the Seminoles? The guys also discuss FSU at 1-7 and the final month of the regular season.

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Anybody have actual knowledge of why he never plays over a few ST snaps. Is it poor practice effort, injuries or is he just not very good? Honestly I never viewed him as a five star talent but I thought he had enough raw ability to be better than what we are seeing from the others on the field. I can’t see him or many of the younger talent who no getting a chance sticking around.

I know I’m a Nole homer but I think FSU wins the UNC game.

I also think FSU will beat uf. uf is about to go through murders row (UGA, Tex, Ole Miss and LSU) with a true freshman qb before they come to Tallahassee. I’m hoping they are just so beat down and FSU is fired up by it being their last game of the year.

FSU football version 2024 IS DEAD. It went into cardiac arrest after the GT game....and SMU basically pulled the plug. I watched the Duke game and Manny Diaz realized after about a quarter that unless Duke turned the football over and poop the bead that he was not losing. Mario figured it out pretty quickly. All season Mario has been super aggressive and they went for it every time when Miami was in 4th and 3. Last night Mario took the points and banked them. Once Miami got to 20+ points the game was over. Miami played their most conservative game all season. Miami was in control of that game from beginning to end.


INSANITY - is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. FSU is 1-7 and honestly since game 2-3 the results for this season looked BLEEK. As a fan you always have hope going into these games. The reality is this team is not very good. I don't think all of the blame can be put on the talent. There is TALENT on the roster. I think for this season the talent and those who have played has been wrong. I have my opinions on what went wrong - It does not make me right....

Next- My opinion - There are a few posters on here who mentioned my silence or that maybe I ignored them about talking about the team, coaches or changes that WILL BE MADE. I have seen the post but feel there is a time and place to discuss these topics. In the middle of the season while coaches are still on staff is not the appropriate time. I hope you as a poster can respect that and understands that I will discuss after the season. Anyone that knows me personally, understands I am not afraid to speak my mind. If I have an opinion on a subject, I will give you my thoughts.

Coaching Changes - They will happen. Who, when, where and why...We will find out soon enough. FSU is 1-7 and the reality is coaches are going to lose their jobs. There is no doubt in my mind that changes are coming. I won't speculate on who will be gone. Mike Norvell is the HC of this football team and he will make those decisions.

WHY? I know there are some that feel no matter what happens that Mike can't make it. That his future is cooked. I feel differently. Why, because he has had success now at two programs (Memphis/FSU). He has a proven track record of hiring good coaches (Lanning, Dillingham, Silverfeld). I want to see what happens. If a coach is let go, I will give you my opinion on the new coach and coaches I feel would be good picks IMHO. History tells me that Mike can get the job done. If you believe otherwise that is your opinion. You have the right to your opinion. I also don't believe the prior two years are FLUKES.

Coaching/Recruiting - Anyone that has followed me will tell you that I feel that Recruiting is 75-80 percent of the reason why a coach has success. I feel coaching and developing is 20 percent of the equation. Talent Acquisition is the single most important part of winning games. QB, WR1, OT, DE, DT, CB.....You have to recruit these positions at an elite level to play in the playoffs and actually win games. RB, TE, OG, LB, S....These positions don't have to be elite. You also have manage your roster. I have broken down FSU roster management and the number 1 reason FSU has struggled this year is the classes of 20, 21 and 22. FSU must recruit at a higher level.

Cam Ward/ DJ U - Mike Norvell went after Cam Ward. So many have said FSU was outbid....I think the truth lies in between. I feel that FSU and MN made a very nice run at Ward. Did Miami offer him more, YES? At the same time I think one of reasons why FSU got outbid is 1) DJ U, 2) roster construction and expectations for 2024....Reality is FSU just came off a 13-0 season, had an OL that most felt would be the strength of the team, and the roster while good had a ceiling....9 wins maybe 10. FSU had gone all in for 2023 and no matter what this year the expectations inside that building were probably not as high. So do you go and overspend for Cam? Or do you take this as a transition year, take a flyer on DJ and roll the dice to see what happens. Also remember Ward was much more valuable to Mario than Mike. Mario was in a win now situation and mike just had to maintain. It was a calculation that Mike took and the reality is it backfired. FSU could have probably rolled with Luke and Brock and had the same results.

Brock/Luke - Watching these two, I do believe you can win plenty of games with these two. I remember watching Christian Ponder at FSU summer camp and he was downright terrible. I remember watching Blake Borttles in HS. He was so bad the UCF coaches felt at worst he would be a tight end. Well both ended up 1st round picks. I am not saying Glenn or Luke will play in the NFL but I will tell you that both are better prospects at the same time. I feel either of them can have success in college.

2025 - FSU has a decision to make in 2025 - Do you roll with Luke and Brock or is a transfer QB going to have to be brought in. If Brock or Luke happen to be the guy than 6-7-8 wins is what you are looking at in 2025. Luke has talent but he is far from ready. If you do decide this is the route you are going then INVESTMENT in the OL becomes that much more important. How do you help out a young QB- RUN THE BALL - How do you run the ball - have a good OL? FSU has to go out and FIX THE OL. It needs to become priority number one.

The rest of 2024 - If you are going to watch FSU football the rest of the year do so at your own risk. Expectations are gone, now you watch the young players and find out what you got. I am all for the youth movement because those guys who you recruited and are going through this crap season will be the foundation to future success. The players who go through this will eventually become the leaders and they will put their foot down and say not on my watch. That is the difference between the portal and home grown talent. INVESTMENT - Those who are here will be the ones who put the sweat in to turn it around.

College football - If you don't believe college football has changed - Indiana is 8-0. They beat Ohio State there is a very good chance they make the playoffs. This is not basketball...think about that for a second.

Curt Cignetti - His agent is about to get this man paid....


QB
Brock/Luke - I would play both the rest of the season. You look around college football. Texas, Ohio State, Georgia, Miami, Oregon, Clemson, ND, Iowa State, IU. These teams all have the same thing in common, QB's with a ton of experience. Brock and Luke need experience. Nothing replaces that. I am a big Avery Johnson fan. He still has moments like last night when he fumbled on a key drive. Those mistakes seem to happen more for younger players. Brock and Luke showed enough last night that with experience down the road, a proper OL blocking and a good run game, these two will have success.

I feel that Luke is a combination between Blake Borttles and Ryan Tannehill. RT went to Texas A&M as a receiver and converted to QB. He ended up getting drafted in round one. Luke has talent. Realize those like RT, Luke had one year of playing QB in HS. He is so new to the game. It is going to take time to develop him. Luke has the work ethic to be good. After speaking with him at NSD last year with Pat, I also feel he has the mindset to play the game.


RB
No Kam - Toafili had his moments but honestly needed more carries. He needs to touch the ball more. I feel that LT is one of the few guys on this year’s team who can actually make plays.

WR
YOUTH MOVEMENT- FSU played some younger guys. I know many are down on some of these guys. I will withhold judgement on any receiver coming back until I see what moves are made this off-season. I still have hope for many of the guys who are still on the roster.

TE
The best two tight ends are Amaree and Landen. Problem is both are freshman. Have no idea how many wrong routes they have run. I have no idea how many times they have missed key blocks. This off-season will be huge in both guys development.

OL
Actually felt early on the OL held their own. There was time for the QB's to throw. There were some lanes for the backs to run through. They were not terrible last night. As FSU got more and more behind and they were put in bad spots, the OL breakdowns started to happen.

DE
Marvin - Oh Boy....He has his moments of good or really bad. Marvin needs to really work on improving his game this off-season. If he wants any shot at playing past college, he needs to work on his game. Pat Payton - Boy...He has done nothing this season. He actually has regressed in 2024.

DT
Tag you are IT - Darrell Jackson decided to show up. While Joshua Farmer, I am not sure if he actually played. I will have to go back and look. Farmer was a no show. Jackson and Farmer will be lucky to get drafted in round 6-7. These two would be making huge mistakes to come out this year. They will make more money taking NIL from FSU or some other college. Being dead serious whoever is advising these two...Tell them to stay in college.

LB
Where Fish was wrong - stealing a line from Colin Cowherd -Omar Graham was downright terrible early in the season. The past two weeks Graham has made some plays. He made a great play in the back of the end-zone knocking down that pass. He also got in on a sack. I think Graham at worst can be a solid back up. There are some parts to work with next season.

DB-FSU secondary played well last night. We have known all year that their most talented segment on defense is the secondary. They held Miami to their lowest totals of the season. I do think they secondary can be one of the better units in the ACC next year.

Final Thoughts: I get it. I get that fans are upset about this season. You spend your hard earned dollars going to games. I get your spend your time. You spend your emotions each week wanting your team to win. Maybe just maybe it is just me getting older. I use to get upset after a loss. Heck when Bobby would have an 11-1 season and that one loss was at the end of the year and FSU would not get the chance to play for a title it ruined an entire off-season for me. I have to this day not forgiven Mark Richt for the play calls against UF in 97 when FSU needed a TD to only settle for a FG. I still have not gotten over the FSU vs. OU game in 2001 where I went to the OB only to watch them score 2 points. I blamed Richt for that as well. I am not going to tell you how to feel. Get upset...get angry- let it out. I get it. I used to be that way. That being said I do believe that the way college football is now, the game has changed. That this is the new norm. 13-0 to 2-10. Yes, I believe that you will see this happen more than ever before. College football has become PRO SPORTS. In the pros you see it all the time. From Super Bowl finalist to not making the playoffs the following year. I truly believe FSU just happens to be the unfortunate FIRST to experience such a letdown. Can Mike fix it....We will see. You can be one of those who says they are done....LETS BE REAL. We have all said that before. Thing is spring football will come and you will check this site and others for updates. Fall will come and you pump your chest out and tell everyone how FSU will make a run. Losing sucks...I get it. Nothing we can do now about this season. The season ends and we will turn the page. There is not much else to say.

FSU sports information:

Florida State sophomore forward Jordynn Dudley was named the ACC Offensive Player of the Week on Tuesday afternoon, her first ACC honor since being named the 2023 ACC Freshman of the Year.

Dudley opened the highly-anticipated matchup against #4 North Carolina with a poke-in goal off a free kick to put the Seminoles ahead before closing the game out with a half volley touch before unleashing her shot into the bottom left corner. Dudley recorded her first multi-goal game of her sophomore campaign and has scored a brace in two games against a top-5 opponent, both being against North Carolina.

Dudley has scored six goals and six assists for 18 total points in nine games. Despite missing six games while claiming a bronze medal for the United States at the FIFA U-20 Women’s World Cup, she is tied for second in team points, goal, and assists.

The sophomore received several preseason accolades including named to the Preseason All-ACC Team, TopDrawerSoccer Preseason Best XI First Team, MAC Hermann Trophy Watch List, and was named the No. 2 player in all of women’s college soccer according to TopDrawerSoccer in the preseason.

The Seminoles will conclude the regular season with a Thursday evening match at Miami at 6 p.m. on ACC Network to qualify for the 2024 ACC Women’s Soccer Tournament.

FSU sports information:

The No. 12 Florida State men’s golf team finished stroke play at the East Lake Cup at 7-under par on Monday.

The Seminoles finished the first 18 holes tied with No. 2 Auburn and will face the Tigers, starting at 12:20 p.m. at the East Lake Club on Tuesday in match play. It will be a rematch of the 2024 NCAA National Championship, where the Tigers edged FSU 3-2. No. 11 Georgia Tech (-8) will face Ohio State (+2).

“We had great energy today,” FSU coach Trey Jones said. “We came out ready to play. The team I saw today can play with anybody. I am looking forward to a great match tomorrow.”

In his season debut, Patrick McCann was the first Seminole off the tee and shot a hole-in-one on the second hole. McCann hit the ball 207 yards with a five iron on the par three for eagle.

McCann was out in 35 strokes in the front nine and was in at 34, finishing the day 3-under par, 69. Luke Clanton and Tyler Weaver also shot 69 and finished tied for fourth place. Weaver carded eight birdies on the day, including four on the back nine, while Clanton swung four total. Both players went out in 36 and in at 33.

Jack Bigham finished tied for 13th at 2-over, 74. Carson Brewer shot 75, finishing in a tie for 15th at 3-over.

Coverage will air on the Golf Channel at 3 p.m. on Tuesday.

East Lake Cup Individual Scores

T4. Luke Clanton – 69
T4. Tyler Weaver – 69
T4. Patrick McCann – 69
T13. Jack Bigham – 74
T15. Carson Brewer – 75

Team Scores

No. 11 Georgia Tech – 8
No. 12 Florida State - 7
No. 2 Auburn - 7
Ohio State +2

On Friday Night there was a point of the game where Duke HC Manny Diaz realized that his team was not going to lose. It was not when the final seconds came off the clock to end the game. It was not when FSU final drive finished. Manny realized half way through the first half that if his Duke team did not lose the turnover battle, did not lose the field position that his team would not lose. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DUKE.....He knew FSU was finished. He coached like a coach who just had to get to the finish line. Run the ball, get first downs, eat up clock and storm the field. FSU had hit rock bottom.


FSU is in complete REBUILD MOLD. Now you can sit a get angry. You can go on about them needing to fire every coach on the staff including the HC. PUMP THE BREAKS. That is just not happening. I have mentioned on this site and on podcast for over 2 years now that the way college football is constructed is no longer sustainable. USC is 3-4. They are not there because Lincoln Riley can't coach. Heck App State and Troy State were both favored to win their conferences. One team is 2-4 and the other is 1-6. STOP....STOP looking at college football the same. What happens in 2024 does not mean 2025 will be the same. FSU fans should be pissed, they should be upset but STOP.....Stop saying the team is done, Norvell will never win and will be fired. WHY, because we are in a new era of college football. One were sustaining success from year to year, under the current system is OVER. FSU just is the first team to go from 13-0 to 1-6. They won't be the last. Next year it could be Miami. There are some teams which are probably immune (Ohio State, Georgia, Texas) but even Alabama has been hit by it. Bama fans think because Saban left this happened. NAH...Saban knew what I have known for a very long time. This way of college football is unsustainable.

So what happens next...MN continues to collect close to 10 million a year. He will sit down after the season and make wholesale changes to his staff. He will have to revamp the recruiting ways FSU does business. FSU will most likely have to turn over their roster again and next year will be a new year. The stink from this season will not carry over as it will not be the same team, coaches or staff. This is the world we live in.

FSU team....moving forward.

QB-After watching both Luke Kromenhoek and Brock Glenn, I realized that FSU does not have an elite QB on their roster. OH HOW DARE FISH...I know I am going to take heat from some because I said this. When I look and evaluate QB's they must have at least one ELITE TRAIT. They must have GREAT SIZE, or they must have a great arm, or they must be a great athlete, or they must have great accuracy or they must have great anticipation. Luke and Brock don't have any of these traits. NOW.....Can FSU win BIG or win at all with either one, YES.....But to do that you will need to have GREAT TALENT AROUND THEM. You have to have one or the other. I said it before the season DJ Lagway. That is what an ELITE QB looks like. Cam Ward that is an ELITE QB. I am a big fan of Avery Johnson. He runs in the 4.4 range. He has ELITE athletic ability. I personally would like to see FSU make a run at Avery. I spoke to someone that told me that Lagway is gone from UF. His contract has a clause in it that once Napier is fired, his contract is voided. This comes from someone I trust. He will most likely go to the highest bidder. FSU has a choice either outbid everyone or land Avery Johnson. FSU has to land a QB...Because I don't think FSU will have a great roster in 2025...I feel it will be good enough for FSU to get back to 8-9 wins.

RB-I like Kam Davis. He rushed for 63 yards on 14 carries. If gets 6 more carries, Kam goes over 100 yards. I believe if you have Kam matched up with a back who had some speed and quickness (Isaac Brown -68 Rushes, 564 yards, 4 touchdowns). You will have Thunder (Kam) Lightning (Brown). He is a freshman at Louisville and should be a priority. I still don't know why FSU did not recruit him. He played great against Saint Thomas in the state title game. It is not hard, don't make it hard. Davis is a ground and pound back. The fumble was not good but the entire team stinks and one play is not going to define this kid. He is one of the guys I expect to become a leader on the team and remember this type of season and won't allow it to happen again.

WR-Outside of QB there is not a position that was mishandled worse through the portal this past off-season. I have not gotten to OL yet...Patience grasshopper. FSU is not good at receiver. I am not going to blame all of that on the players. Watching Hykeem short arm a pass to not get hit was disgusting. Watching Jalen Brown not run after the DB who just picked off a pass was ENOUGH for me to say that he should be walked into MN office on Monday and asked to clean out his locker. EFFORT....Man, I have coached baseball and football and tell kids all the time...EFFORT is the one thing you control. Jalen who I liked coming out of HS, FAILED the EFFORT TEST. Not caring is not allowed in my book. BYE, BYE. I don't feel bad saying that now when you realize how much these kids make. I am going to give Hykeem a pass and see what happens next year. I will wait and give the other guys on the roster a pass because we don't know what is next. Let’s see what happens with this position on and off the field.

That being said....Jacorey Brooks - I think FSU took the wrong Bama receiver. The one who played as a freshman in the title game and performed well. 36 catches, 67- yards and 8 touchdowns. He is from Miami and went to Booker t. Instead you took a failed receiver Benson (Alabama). These are the decisions why FSU sits at 1-6.


Tight End- Morlock - He finally caught something. The fake punt worked and Morlock showed some ability. I still feel good about Amaree Williams and Landen Thomas. When we look at the REBUILD, those two are part of the solution.

Offensive Line - I really don't know what to say about the OL. They are not good. Why? This line has played terrible. For FSU to turn around the program in 2025 this is going to have to be priority number 1. FSU MUST fix this problem. I do believe that Early and Otto are part of solution. They are going trial by fire. If there is change at the OL spot, I want to see what happens with Armella. I still believe he is part of the solution. What happens at TACKLE is crucial. Lucas Simmons needs to live up to his potential.

Defensive Line - THE BEST DL IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL....The ESPN guys have said this over and over again. Who told them this because I don't believe that they have watched FSU play this year? This line is not good. They have some individuals who are good but as a unit they have been a big disappointment. The biggest issue is where is the FIX? You have the potential to lose Farmer who I feel should stay another year, Payton and Jackson. WHO - WHO replaces them. I don't think any of the three is getting drafted early or even in the middle of the draft.

Linebacker - For all the complaining about LB...Cryer can play. He will be an All-Conference player next season. I still like Nichelson. This unit can be redeemed in 2025.

Defensive Back - They actually played OK the other night against Duke. I am less concerned about DB because there are options here.

ST - Who replaces the K and P....These two losses may haunt FSU in 2025.

Final Thoughts - I wrote this team off after the Cal Game. They won but may as well not have. I never thought I would see a team at FSU go 2-10 but unless something crazy happens this team is going 2-10. This is REALITY. I am one of those that is a fighter. I feel FSU can fix this. Will they? We just don't know. Crying about it won't accomplish a thing. I will wait until the season ends, changes are made and how the roster is constructed before truly judging what FSU will be.

Around college football.....

Day, Sark, Day, Sark, Day, Sark...These two coaches have probably a combined 50 million dollar payroll to work with and both CANT WIN A BIG GAME. Money can buy you a lot - BUT IT DOES NOT GUARANTEE WINS. Just does not. It makes it easier to win. USC fans want Lincoln gone. STUPID...Winning is going to become harder and harder to do in college football. You will start to see teams with 3-4 losses. I watch Texas and that soft football crept in yesterday. Sark has now lost to Washington (Bowl Game-22), Washington (Regular Season-22), Washington (Playoffs-23) and now Georgia (Regular Season-24). I was never a fan of Texas hiring Sark. He failed out Washington, failed at USC and now runs Texas. He may win...eventually as I feel TALENT wins out. That being said there is something about him I don't like, I feel the same way about LANE who is the single most overrated coach in the country. Day may eventually win but he was given the Ohio State job when he did not deserve it.

Alabama - Fans think Deboer forgot how to coach...LOL. The moment Saban left it did not matter who took over. Milroe was still your QB. You still had issues along the OL and the team’s talent and depth was not the same. This is no shock. Bama is a shell of the team they have been. GUESS WHAT - THIS IS THE NEW WORLD OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL. I could see this coming. Bama will most likely lose again this year and not make the playoffs.

Curt Cignetti - I think the race is on. UF, Oklahoma, possibly even Michigan. Would Ohio State make a run if Day does not win and they move on from him. He is the hottest name in college football. 7-0 at IU. UF fans on their site...some question this hire. Some rather have LANE. Honestly - he should be the first and last call you make and offer him the job. The reason admins screw up so many times...they over think this. It is not hard. He is the best coach in college football this season. PERIOD/END OF STORY.

SMU- I am making a prediction now...SMU will be one of the two teams who plays in the ACC title game. I feel it will be against Miami.

Top 25

1-Oregon - (7-0) vs. Illinois - Big fan of Dan Lanning. Think he is the next great college football coach. Oregon will make the playoffs and be very difficult to beat. His teams are always prepared for the big games. He won the big game this year against Ohio State. They will make the playoffs.

2-Miami - (7-0) vs. FSU - I hear how their defense is no good. YEAH...SO. They have the best player in college football (CAM WARD) -only Travis Hunter can lay claim. Cam is unreal and Miami will have a shot to beat any team they face. Their defense is not very good in the secondary. Not Texas, Not Georgia...those are not the teams I feel that match up well against Miami. It is Oregon, SMU...teams that can score with them. Miami is going to score.

3-Penn State - (6-0) at Wisconsin - Penn State has a one game season in two weeks against Ohio State. Win that and they are in. They have a very good defense. Their offense still has major questions marks.

4-Georgia (6-1) Georgia has the two best wins (Clemson/Texas) on their resume. They have the best defense in college football. WTH. They play defense like they actually tackle in practice. (HMMMMMM). Kirby is the best defensive coach in the country. Georgia has a great defense. I still think their offense is a problem.

5-Texas (6-1) vs. Vandy - Texas got punched in the mouth yesterday and never responded. This is ALWAYS the biggest concern with Texas as a program. THEY ARE SOFT. Georgia was more physical. They are the most gifted team in college football. CAN THEY WIN A TOUGH GAME....FORGET A BIG GAME. They are the ultimate finesse team in sports.

6-Ohio State - (5-1) vs. Nebraska - They have two tough games left at Penn State and vs. Indiana. Yes they play Michigan but lose that and Day won't survive. Michigan is not good enough to beat Ohio State this year. They can’t afford to lose that game.

7-Notre Dame - (6-1) their toughest game left on the schedule is Army. I am dead serious. They are a tougher game then FSU, UVA and USC. How did ND lose to NIU. That is a bad loss and I could see a 3 loss Bama get in over a 1 loss ND. This is one year ND may wish they played in a conference.

8-Clemson - (6-1) BYE- I feel vs. Louisville, at VT, at Pitt or SC- Clemson will get another loss. They may even get two. I have never seen a team get so much media love like Clemson. I was not impressed with them against FSU. I have not been impressed with them all year.

9-BYU- (7-0) the year they had Zach Wilson, I felt that BYU could have played with most teams in college football. This version of BYU is very good. They are a UTAH this year.

10-LSU (6-1) vs Texas A&M- This is an elimination game vs. Texas A&M. Winner moves on, loser is out IMHO. I feel Kelly has the team rolling. They have a QB....That matters. The defense is getting better.

11-Iowa State - (7-0) the are on a crash course to play Kansas State in the season finale. Iowa State is a tough, hardnosed team. I don't feel they are the best team....BUT THEY KEEP WINNING.

12-IU- (7-0) they play Washington, at Michigan State and vs. Michigan before Ohio State. They could be 10-0 going into Ohio State. The world is coming to an end. Curt Cignetti has locked up coach of the year.

13-Kansas State (6-1) vs. Kansas - I feel their loss to BYU is a better one then Tennessee loss. I feel their loss is better than Texas A&M. Kansas State is a good football team.

14-Tennessee (6-1)vs. Kentucky- Tennessee probably loses one more game vs. Georgia. They will be 10-2. This team still has a ton of questions to answer. They won yesterday but it sure as hell was not pretty.

15-Texas A&M-(6-1) they lost to ND....They still have at South Carolina, LSU, vs. Texas. I see two more losses. They lose next week to LSU, I say their playoff chances are gone.

Best of the rest...

16-Alabama (5-2)
17-Boise State-(5-1)
18-Ole Miss (5-2)
19-SMU (6-1)
20-Pitt (6-0)
21-Illinois (6-1)
22-Army-(7-0)
23-Navy (6-0)
24-Colorado (5-2)
25-Liberty (6-0)

PLAYOFFS

1-Oregon (Big 10)
2-Miami (ACC)
3-Kansas State (Big 12)
4-Georgia (SEC)


5-Penn State (Big 10)
12-Liberty (G5)

6-Texas (SEC)
11-Tennessee (SEC)

7-Ohio State (Big 10)
10-SMU (ACC)

8-Notre Dame
9-LSU (SEC)

Is still a top 15 qb in the nfl right now.. Thats the post..

Anyone know how soon it will open?

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On Monday's edition of the Osceola's Seminole Sidelines, host Patrick Burnham leads a roundtable discussion with football analyst Mark Salva as well as Curt Weiler and Bob Ferrante. We offer some second-watch thoughts on FSU-Miami, the youth movement and what Mike Norvell said about potential midseason coaching changes as well as play-calling duties.

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Monday night's show begins with Jeff Culhane and Mike Norvell.

Norvell: "Everybody's pissed off ... to come up short, it hurts."

Patrick Surtain and AZ Thomas will join later.

The big picture for Florida State is player development. Practice and playing on special teams can prepare players for game days. But nothing compares to snaps in games.

Coaches are leaning more and more on true freshman on offense, including in the game at Miami. There's no easy button to expedite their development, but snaps are valuable in the development toward their future.

This is evident as FSU is playing true freshmen at quarterback (Luke Kromenhoek), tailback (Micahi Danzy), wide receiver (Lawayne McCoy, Elijah Moore and BJ Gibson) and tight end (Landen Thomas and Amaree Williams). Thomas is up to 149 snaps, most among the 2024 signees and nearly all of those have come in the last four games.

FSU sports information:

Florida State women’s basketball players Ta’Niya Latson and Makayla Timpson were named to the Naismith Women’s Player of the Year Watch List on Monday.

Florida State was one 13 schools to have multiple players on the list, and one of three from the ACC.

The list recognizes the top 50 players in the nation to watch. The organization also releases a list of 30 midseason candidates. A national voting academy of leading basketball coaches, administrators and journalists narrows the group down to four finalists based on player performance throughout the season. The final four Naismith finalists will make up the ballot and the player of the year is voted on by the group.

Latson was also a part of the list as a sophomore in 2023-24. Both Timpson and Latson were selected to the Preseason All-ACC Team for the second time in their careers ahead of this season.

Florida State will welcome West Florida for an exhibition game on Wednesday at 6 p.m. Admission is free.

The Associated Press released its preseason poll on Oct. 15, with FSU ranked 19th. The Seminoles also appeared at No. 19 in the USA Today Sports Coaches Poll, that was released on Oct. 24.

Single game tickets are now on sale at the FSU Ticket office.

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Some updated information on Loftin.


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Chase Loftin has set an unofficial visit to Nebraska for this weekend.

As you'll would have read in the update thread from last Wednesday, I said that I didn't feel he was on flip watch given he hadn't set a visit anywhere yet. Had noted that Nebraska and Texas A&M had been pushing hard for a visit but he still wasn't sure if he'd take one and hadn't set anything yet. From when I spoke to him and then an additional person more familiar on the Nebraska side of things, I left those conversations feeling okay about where things stood. I don't want to speculate on what finally got him to take a visit elsewhere but you can now consider him on flip watch heading into this upcoming weekend.

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No OR at quarterback but there are a few changes to FSU's depth chart to begin North Carolina week.

Four-star DE Tobi Haastrup has become one of Florida State priority targets on the lead up to ESD and he will be officially visiting this weekend for the North Carolina game. I sat down with Haastrup to preview his official visit earlier this week. Here is what he had to say about what he is looking for this weekend.

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It's hard to recall a Florida State-Miami gameday like this one.

The Seminoles (1-6, 1-5 in ACC) are not exactly riding high entering this year's rivalry game at Hard Rock Stadium (7 p.m. on ESPN). And yet, it's always easy to get up for a Miami game. It's doubtful that FSU needs any more motivation, but the Hurricanes being undefeated (7-0, 3-0) and ranked sixth in the country only adds more fuel to FSU's motivational fire entering Saturday night's game.

FSU is a sizable 20.5-point road underdog for this road game at Miami. It'll have its hands full with a Miami offense that is led by Heisman contender Cam Ward and ranks first nationally in yards per play (8.05) and passing yards (2,719) and second nationally in points per game (48.3). Miami's defense has allowed a combined 117 points over its last three games (39 per game), but the Seminoles haven't scored 20+ points in a game since their season opener vs. Georgia Tech two months ago.

FSU has won the last three games in the rivalry, but trails in the all-time series 35-33 to the Hurricanes. The Seminoles are 21-18 in road games at Miami all-time and 13-7 since the Hurricanes joined the ACC in 2004.

On the injury front, we'll be monitoring if starting left tackle Darius Washington and freshman running back Kam Davis are available for the Seminoles after both suffered injuries in the fourth quarter of last week's loss at Duke. Mike Norvell was non-committal about their statuses on Monday and said they would be monitored as the week progressed.

Bob Ferrante and Curt Weiler will be there in person tonight at Hard Rock Stadium providing pregame updates starting around 4 p.m. and in-game updates once the game gets underway. Follow along below.

Florida State has now lost all three of it's previous wide receiver commits.

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