up to about 61% fully vaxxed and 71% partially vaxxed for that age group now per actual state government data.58% of those age 18-64 are fully vaxed in HI
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proof of vaccination or COVID-19 test to attend game
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I am not saying this to be insensitive to anyone who has experienced loss with this.
Virus gonna virus. Very little you can do to stop it, short of turning into Australia or new Zealand. It may take me tomorrow or the next day. Someone said they thought there was a genetic component to folks reaction, and that's got to be the case.
Virus gonna virus. Very little you can do to stop it, short of turning into Australia or new Zealand. It may take me tomorrow or the next day. Someone said they thought there was a genetic component to folks reaction, and that's got to be the case.
depends on the age group and location in florida. the weekly report is available at the link below. more granular data on the county level and one shot or full vax status is on the CDC website.
COVID Data Tracker
CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.
covid.cdc.gov
Thanks for the updateup to about 61% fully vaxxed and 71% partially vaxxed for that age group now per actual state government data.
Uh, what? I mean we can argue 6’ but you can’t argue that overall distance isn’t a factor. Maybe it’s 7’ or 7’6” but it’s probably not too far off 6’
Why can’t I? I mean you’re defaulting to twice the distance the WHO suggests. That’s a huge difference and there’s no real evidence the three feet matters.
It’s very possible anything outside of normal personal space isn’t an issue. And that’s relevant when we destroy businesses by making them move tables six feet apart and otherwise limiting numbers.
It’s very possible anything outside of normal personal space isn’t an issue. And that’s relevant when we destroy businesses by making them move tables six feet apart and otherwise limiting numbers.
I’ll admit defeat on that. Didn’t know what WHOs recs were. But whatever the distance is, it does matter. That’s indisputable and also common sense.
it only if it’s practically addressable. It’s not.
renember the distance idea is to address super direct transmission. It’s so small because when we’re moving around sharing air, it matters not what distances are.
A 2-3 foot rule is all but meaningless because we are rarely that close to people except those who would not follow distancing rules with us. So I’ll state a more real rule. People should honor normal personal space rules abs only violate them with our close people. All of which is happening anyway.
renember the distance idea is to address super direct transmission. It’s so small because when we’re moving around sharing air, it matters not what distances are.
A 2-3 foot rule is all but meaningless because we are rarely that close to people except those who would not follow distancing rules with us. So I’ll state a more real rule. People should honor normal personal space rules abs only violate them with our close people. All of which is happening anyway.
But that’s not true at a crowded bar or a crowded concert or a crowded... gulp... football game. That’s what my point is, I guess. Social distancing and masks don’t accomplish that much it was the limits on really big groups getting together that did it. I was at the FSU pub crawl in Ybor last Sat, at various bars there were people crowded in literally shoulder to shoulder. That event was undoubtedly a super spreader of sorts. But yeah, 6’ distance at the post office or Publix is stupid.
Ah, yes when I said social distancing it very much included personal space and it was mostly to stop the Joe Bidens of the world from being so touchy feely 😁
There were a couple I saw months ago, that were done pre-Covid. The really amusing thing to me, is that the one item that really works is hand washing. Lots of evidence of its efficacy. Now, it really is about vaccination, which has plenty of science demonstrating decreased viral load which makes sense if you understand how the virus works in the body (enables your body to recognize the virus much earlier and therefore attack it before it gets a foothold in your lungs).
Normal personal distance is highly variable from culture to culture. Anyone that has gone to southern Europe from the USA notices this..........LOL
Yeah. We live in America. The reality is an attempt to make social distancing stuff part of a solution has been a waste. It’s part of what i don’t like about the overall approach.
Push vaccines and if people are ill stay home. Stop all the other nonsense.
Push vaccines and if people are ill stay home. Stop all the other nonsense.
Sure it is. If I’m covid positive in a bar and we never get within 6 feet you’re still gonna get exposed. Can’t really do things like bars and all with bubbles. It’s just silly.
I trust you’ll stay home when sick. As would any decent person
Please provide that data if available, along with partially vaxxed and fully vaxxed numbers. That’s stuff I’d love to see to make an informed decision regarding the vaccination.
You have a better chance of finding tonight’s winning lotto numbers before the drawing than that info.
Why would that make a difference to you? Just say you aren’t going to get it.
Some won’t trust til numbers are more there. I think the how well they work against unvaxxed is pretty clear. But i would love to know how much of that unvaxxed category had already had the virus and then ended up getting real sick with it a second time. But apparently those numbers aren’t being kept or reported. That causes a lot of suspicion.
You’re going to have to look to individual hospitals that are reporting. Getting that much detail you aren’t going to get from most state governments.
That’s ok. But then pardon me when I don’t buy into numbers. You can’t just omit a critical player abs have any credibility with anyone other then people who want the answer. I can’t believe it’s this sloppy and we’re supposed to trust them.
It's not suspicious, it's responsible. What would be suspicious is if the powers that be used data that was not peer reviewed and retested for confirmation.
You’re ridiculous. They can gather and report all this other data and make decisions but that one fact needs a ten year study to decide whether to even gather the data?
If you don’t even look into whether people who’ve had covid need a vaccine, you’re untrustworthy.
If you don’t even look into whether people who’ve had covid need a vaccine, you’re untrustworthy.
I guarantee you they are looking into it. And I can show you some preliminary data...
Doesn't mean anything should be done with it yet...
Reduced Risk of Reinfection with SARS-CoV-2 After COVID-19 Vaccination - Kentucky, May-June 2021 - PubMed
Although laboratory evidence suggests that antibody responses following COVID-19 vaccination provide better neutralization of some circulating variants than does natural infection (1,2), few real-world epidemiologic studies exist to support the benefit of vaccination for previously infected...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
It would speak to the efficacy of the vax and whether unvaccinated numbers are exaggerated by the illness often experienced immediately after the first or second dose of the vaccine. That’s info I’d like to know. That said, I know folks who’ve done quite well with the monoclonal antibody treatment and might go with that since availability is more widespread.
Monoclonal antibody treatment is more available than the vaxx?
Monoclonal anti-body treatment is also only authorized under emergency use provisions. Don't you need more data and studies on it as well?
I feel like you’re going to die on the partially vaccinated hill for some reason. I’ll provide the 4 hospital systems data here this morning that I’ve now seen.
it's absolutely an opinion, and a personal one at that, but since we in the US flat refuse to provide the same granular level of data as just about every other country, it's one that i will maintain until proven otherwise. i'm a data hound, i have charted COVID since month 1.
we are just weeks away from the 65+ being fully vaccinated in the US. what will the excuse be if they continue to dominate COVID deaths then and are still making up a third of COVID hospitalizations? (which is about what it has been all along) very little has changed among the most vaccinated age populations relative to their inoculation status besides a slight shifting of the burden from the 65+ to the 50-64 age group.
Wonder if this is related to the vaccine. Have read headlines only that there's a possible correlation with BP and vaccines. No clue if true but vaers reports it is not terribly uncommon.
Yeah there was a study published recently. Not sure if the study is legitimate or not but it's not something we need to worry about. This problem was found in Sinovac's vaccine which is not approved in the US.
So what if you contract the "virus" between testing and going to the game? Its like wearing a mask in a restaurant and taking it off to eat. Make no sense.
Yeah there is a lot of stuff in that system. Some of it is legitimate but the CDC asks that any and all symptoms related to anything be reported after vaccination.
People can report almost anything and numbers from VAERS are essentially meaningless until supporting evidence is shown.
For example, the "10,000" vaccine deaths comes from VAERS, however, of those 0 have any evidence that the vaccine killed any of the reported individuals.
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