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Clemson mistake gives NFL Seminoles a perfect night

Graham Gano was 5/5 in field goals for his NY Giants.

With the score 29-27 Giants…..6 seconds left… Dustin Hopkins misses a 48 yard FG …..BUT Clemson alumni Dexter Lawrence was offsides for his Giants……. and with no time on the clock, Dustin Hopkins got a second chance for a walk-off, game winning 43 yard FG……and drills it for the 30-29 Washington win.

Seminole kickers were 8 for 8 in field goals.

Amazing. Hats off to
Graham and Dustin!

(9/17/21): Full scout on Wake, the slimy future of NIL, can t(he)y get it done to the standard?

(3:00) Corey brings us hope after researching aftershock of P5 losing to FCS historically

(7:00) Deep(ish) dive into Wake; strong LT, good WRs, elite CB, meh run defense

(16:00) Who has to carry the day: offense or defense?

(24:00) How many sacks for Jermaine?

(30:00) When you expect 6-6 is your season really over if you start 0-3?

(38:00) Was the Jacksonville St game a fluke

(43:00) NIL, use it or lose it -- for real

(53:00) What's up with elementary mistakes?

(59:00) What's up with the opening drives not being successful?

(1:02:00) Chances of an in-season shakeup

(1:07:00) An offense for playmakers...sooo, what gives?

(1:11:00) Adam Fuller, good dude, but is his fate and legacy sealed after JSU?

(1:14:00) Can Mike Norvell lead FSU back to back-to-back 10 wins seasons, former glory?

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Is Wake Forest literally the most important game for the future of the program?

I posted this in another thread but want to get more thoughts on this. Is the Wake game the most important for the future of the program? Considering if they lose, IN MY OPINION, the recruits start to jump ship, and really we may not ever get out of this cycle of mediocrity. Win, and we may start to build some momentum, but it has to be even further built upon the next week, and so on. If we were to lose this week, I'm not sure CMN will be able to fix this. Thoughts.
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On FSU Downfield Passing: Let Us Count the Woes

As we're all aware by now, things aren't pretty for the FSU downfield passing offense. I looked into some numbers/reasons why there have been issues through two games.

HC, OC and DC

MN may be the right head coach to lead us back, and he may not be, but I’m really beginning to have serious doubts about an OC who mustered 3 points in the 2nd half against a FCS opponent and a DC who can’t stop an FCS opponent which was punctuated with a list of holding, pass interference, targeting, busted assignments like on JSU’s 2nd TD and then the failure to call prevent defense on the last play. WTH is going on with our OC and DC?

Key to game- be physical

Coaching is important stop making mistakes penalties ... got it.... there are a lot of issues.

But in this game we need to be able to run the ball right down their throat. And overwhelming them with our defensive line against their offensive line. Not by being smart but by overwhelming physical Force.

We will not win this game without being very physical and catching the ball.

No reason our defensive line should not dominate

Why are we assuming we will

Loose to

Wake Forest – they scored 42 and 41 against old Dominion and Norfolk St. They are well coached but then again, they have always been that and still haven’t won anything. 1 game at a time 1 – 0.

Louisville – lost to ole miss and looked worse than we have. Beat E. Kentucky but will loose to ucf. before getting to FSU. 1 game at a time 1 – 0.

Syracuse – They have not shown ANYTHING close to being a team to fear. 1 game at a time 1 – 0.

UNC – We beat them last year with a squad that was not as good as this squad is. The QB didn’t look very good in their first game. Their O did not pass well with mediocre WR’s and no running game. Their D was not very good at stopping the run or pass. Then they beat Georgia st. 1 game at a time 1 – 0.

Then we have a bye week to get our minds right to knock off some of the teams on the back end of the schedule.

I’m mad, frustrated, in disbelief, etc. at what I have witnessed these past two weeks. But my mind will never let me be at the end of my rope when it comes to FSU and our sports teams where I start demeaning them.

I’ve read most of the posts following Saturdays upset loss. Never - ever should have happened, but it did. It’s fascinating that SOME posters believe they either haven’t made a mistake in the heat of the moment/battle or are the only ones that can correct their mistake and move forward.

A team with lesser talent that puts in the work can beat a team with greater talent that doesn’t. We the fans, the coaches, and players, took JSU for a sure W and we all paid for it. I truly believe we have better coaches and talent than any of the teams listed above. I also believe the coaches and players will be held accountable this week and put in the work. A team with lesser talent that puts in the work can not beat a team with greater talent that also puts in the work.

I’m ok with the bashing so have at it. But before you do, I ask that you think about the teams we have coming up and explain to me why they will be L’s for FSU using something other than we stink, we lost to an FCS team. If you’re apt to do so, please also constructively explain how/what we the fans, the coaches, and players can correct within our team to get the ship righted.

Is it time to play other guys ahead of Helton?

I like Helton a lot. Program guy. Character, leadership, and work ethic boxes all checked. Just one problem...he can't catch it consistently. It's hard to forget the game last year when he dropped two easy tds from Chubba. This year he had a chance to establish the tone in the game against Jax St with a TD catch that would put us up 7-0. No one around him and he dropped it, an easy one.

Maybe it's a case of the yips and he's overthinking it in games, but you can't have receivers dropping easy ones on this level.

I would keep him in the rotation but he would not be my starter at this point. I would turn to Douglas in his place.

RIP Trevor Moawad, a behind-the-scenes figure in Jimbo's run here

Trevor Moawad was the mental conditioning expert Jimbo brought in to help FSU in his early years. One of the few people Jimbo took advice from back then. You could actually hear "Trevor-isms" in things Jimbo would say in certain situations.

From what I recall, Mark Krikorian introduced them to each other. He was a nice, smart guy. Had no idea he was sick. May he rest in peace.

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2009 similarities

Bobby's last year and Jimbo's 3rd year as our OC we opened the season at home against Miami on Labor Day and lost a tough game to Miami 38-34.

5 days later we hosted.... Jacksonville State and couldn't have looked worse. We trailed 9-7 with less than 40 seconds left but found a way to win at the end scoring 2 TDs in the final 35 seconds. Yes, we won that game, but if a couple fluke plays happened like tonight, it could've easily been a loss. Either way, we looked HORRIBLE in the win.

The next week we went on the road to play #9 BYU and were big underdogs. I had booked a trip to Provo for the game before the season and remember regretting it big time KNOWING we were gonna get killed.

Well, we ended up destroying them 54-28 on their home field.

Then just when everyone thought we had figured everything out we came back home and lost 17-7 to USF, then lost @BC, and then again at home vs. GT.

We then went on the road on a Thursday night and beat a pretty good UNC team and won 5 out of our last 7 only losing @Clemson and @ #1 UF the rest of the way on our way to a 7-6 season.

This team kinda reminds me of that one. I'm not sure we're gonna get to 7 wins like we did that year, but we aren't going 0-12 or 1-11 either so stop with that. We will win games that nobody is expecting and probably will lose at least 1 or 2 more that we shouldn't. It's gonna be a process with some major lows (Last night!) and hopefully some highs too.

Anyway, I know I'm rambling but "Things are never as good as they seem or as bad as they seem". I still have faith that Coach Norvell will get this thing turned around and wouldn't be surprised at all if we bounce back with a win @ wake next weekend just like we did @BYU in 2009.

And who would've guessed that 7-6 season in 2009 was laying the foundation for one of the greatest teams of all-time just 4 years later...

Go Noles!
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