I know it’s almost cliche at this point but has it ever been worse? Miami losing at home to a pretty average Sparty, VT getting smoked by WVU, N Illinois (who beat GT) is losing 63-3 to Michigan. It’s a truly horrible conference right now.

I know it’s likely going to be a blowout, but watching this game takes me back to my childhood in the 70’s.

Ignition Tradition started a tradition alright. A tradition of being a total embarrassment. There is a really dark cloud hanging over this program.

1. Started with the ridiculous look in the Oklahoma State game. White bird poop tomahawks. Ugly Gold numbers that you can’t even determine who you are looking at. Crossing spears that somehow “resembled the state flag”. Purplish garnet. Magenta facemasks. Ridiculous yellow gold helmets. Tan pants. If we stare at that new logo long enough though..

2. The abortion that was the Oregon game. 6 turnovers. Jameis and Dalvin follies. We literally gifted the Ducks that game and our 29 game winning streak was no more.

3 All of the Jameis drama. Crab legs. Student Union. Ketchup soda cups. The slandering of the program from national media for months.

4. Jameis dressing for the Clemson game and then being sent back to the locker room by Jimbo.

5. Speaking of Jimbo, his ugly, public divorce. Yelling at fans “Why don’t you come down here and say that to my face”. Christmas tree. Wife cheating on him with a former Gator. Totally checked out. Alienating the entire fanbase and admin. Leaving the program in shambles.

6. Cases in point. Houston bowl game loss. JJ freaking Cosentino.

7. George Tech last second blocked field goal for the walkoff win. Tech’s only ACC win for that matter.

8. Louisville blowout loss. 63 points. Lamar Jackson literally running wild.

9. UNC driving down with 30 seconds left for game winning field goal. Kicker doing the tomahawk chop in all of our faces.

10. Derwin James going down to season ending injury in game 2.

11. Francois going down first game against Bama. Having to start a 160 pound true freshman behind the worst OL in the country.

12. Miami driving down for a last second game winning TD and snapping 7 game losing streak.

13. Near historic loss to Samford.

14. Blowing 20 point lead to Miami for loss number two in a row or the Canes.

15. Louisville field goal with 5 seconds left to win. Blow another one.

16. Ricky Aguayo wide left loss at Wake

17. 35-3 blowout loss to BC. Yet “we didn’t quit”

18. Entire short lived Willie Taggart era. Highlight of the entire era was his first spring game.

19. Virginia Tech opening loss. Eye opening experience.

20. 30-7 loss to freaking Syracuse.

21. Another painful 1 point loss to Miami.

22. Professor sitting in the stands reading a book during blowout loss to Clemson.

22. Pink Turnover backpack. Somehow that was hip.

23. Dance parties at practice.

24. Boise State home opening loss. Blew 3 touchdown lead. Yikes.

25. Near overtime loss to Louisiana Monroe. Good thing we pulled that one out!

26. Sam Howell dipping on us on signing day.
Apparently Walt Bell was his only reason he wanted to go here. Luke Altmeyer doing the same. Michael Penix. Jeff Sims. Don’t forget Kayvon Thibeadeaux. List of recruiting misses is miles long.

27. Offensive line tradition of excellence

28. Subsequent Greg Frey lawsuit.

29. Admin staff including President Barron. Randy Spetman. Stan Wilcox. Andy Miller. Rob Wilson. President Thrasher. Great leaders I tell you!

30. Coaching staff legends including Rick Trickett. Charles Kelly. Walt Bell. Alonzo Hampton. Harlon Barnett. Bill Miller. David Kelly not being able to coach. Adam Fuller. Don’t forget Billy Napier and TJ Rushing were here for a combined 3 days!

31. Marvin Wilson social justice warrior. Nice way to bring down your new coach. Doak Campbell and Seminole name under consistent fire.

32. Tomorrion Terry. Great teammate and human.

33. Travis Rudolph. Another great human.

34. Ira Denson. Such a nice guy!

35. Cam Akers coming up just short at UVA.

36. Losing to Georgia Tech and true freshman Jeff Sims at Doak in his first start. Oh the guy who was committed to FSU for over two years?

37. Promise letters. Those worked!

38. Jake Coker and Landon Dickerson winning titles at Alabama.

39. Malik Henry, DeAndre Johnson, John Franklin, JJ Cosentino, James Blackman, Sean Maguire, Everett Golson, Alex Hornibrook. Hitting massive home runs at QB.

40. Blowout losses to middle of pack ACC teams such as NC State, Louisville, Wake, BC, Pitt.

41. Gators snapping their 5 game losing streak

42. Burt Reynolds RIP

43. TK Wetherall RIP

44. Tommie Wright RIP

45. Sandy D'Alemberte RIP

46. Monk Bonosorte RIP

47. Bobby Bowden RIP

48. Notre Dame overtime loss.

49. Now this disaster.

Don’t even want to know what number 50 is.

This program is cursed.

I like the look of it. The plays they run.

Can we just copy it instead of going backwards on first down?

Let me say first I was never a Taggart guy and I never liked the hire because I really don't like super nice guys as head coaches. Coach Bowden had the Southern charm but he would get after you. I'm a Jimbo guy and I always thought we should pull together and at least try to counter A&M with something massive. That's the only way to be in the big league. We chose to ball on a budget and here we are. How much ugly can you stomach? Can you stomach 2-10? It sure looks bleak in my opinion. Either way I'm going to criticize Norvell until or if he turn this dumpster fire around. I'm a Nole for life. And yes I'm a booster and have been on the Booster tours with Jam and had great times doing it

ML said in tonight’s recruiting chat that the JSU loss was the worst in program history. Yes it was an exceedingly bad loss because it was to an FCS school. But the worst IMO was to Southern Miss in 1989. Unlike our current team that has low expectations, our 1989 team was supposed to be a top 10 powerhouse, and that loss left us 0-2. The 1989 team didn’t lose another game including a New Years victory in the Fiesta Bowl. But at the time there were lots of unhappy fans.

BTW the Southern Miss team was quarterbacked by Brett Favre. JSU’s Cooper is no slouch. His scrambling extended plays and he had excellent receivers. They may have gotten crushed the week before, but this team obviously wasn’t the same and they played confident and fearless.

This is what I hope we do to QBs that run. Do it legally but make are they pay the price.

Something I have noticed about Fuller. If you look at their TDs in Q4. We had stopped them most of the game. At that point, it seems you dial-up either pressure and load the box but take some risk of giving up big play if QB makes the right play quickly. The other option is to go into pass prevent and force them to run and burn the clock. Why do we often see some weird hybrid that does not accomplish anything namely slowing them down or preventing a TD? For all three of their TD drives, we gave up some mind-numbing 3rd and long chunk plays. And did the same during the game when they did not score but hurt our field position. It comes down to coaches and/or players having zero situational awareness. On 3rd and long, you either commit to rush or commit to coverage. We often do neither. To be honest, we saw the same before Norvell and Fuller came.

Most likely path

@wake
Lville
Cuse
Umass
Nc St
@BC

Everyone on game day just projected us to win that scares the s*** out of me. I got wake winning, Miami losing, auburn winning, bama winning. What’s y’all’s picks??

He’s playing well for Indiana. They are beating Cincinnati 14-0.

Let's say we beat Wake and look pretty good in doing it. What does this whole thing look like with some more distance?
We almost beat ND. It was seen as a sign of progress. Because we played hard and stood up to a much better opponent.
We lost to Jax St. Because our staff took a calculated risk in using the game to learn about and improve themselves and to enchance their chances down the road (esp. Wake). That was a miscalculation that normally they would not have paid so dearly for. Except they rolled snake eyes and it bit them. So we freaked out. But was it really the case that we are such a bad team that we couldn't beat an FCS opponent at home? Unlikely since we took ND into overtime but let's see the season play out.
So if we beat Wake, what does the big picture look like? You could argue that it is pretty much what we expected and hoped for (except for a psyche-shattering loss based on toying with an inferior opponent and then not being able to pull it out anyway like normally happens).

We're 1-2 like we hoped we wouldn't be but figured that would be because (a) we weren't good enough to hang with ND and (b) also weren't good enough to beat a decent Wake team. Instead we did beat that Wake team (again this is hypothetical...I don't know what will happen), did hang with ND into OT, and just lost on a fluke to a team we were experimenting with. Arguably that's better than the 1-2 scenario we would have expected. The only real damage was to our fanbase's emotional health. If we go on to beat Louisville then we could start to look at it as we are 2-0 in conference, looked generally improved over last year, hung with, fought hard and almost upset ND and, oh yeah, made a huge blunder in a freaky loss to a team we beat 19 times out of 20.

It's a long season and this rebuild is an even longer story that must unfold. Perhaps we'll laugh at ourselves in a few years.
That's the optimist's view.
Unless we lose to Wake. <gulp>

versus JSU. I see a lot of criticism for the defense, but I was far more disappointed with the offensive play. 17 points?

Nebraska is absolutely shooting themselves in the foot with penalties on this opening drive.

Is this a failure on Scott Frost? Ultimately it all rolls up to him, but it's interesting to see another program take the hottest available coach and still deal with head scratching penalties that take yards and points off the board.

Better training facilities? NO
Better housing accommodations? NO
Better health environment? NO
Better physical conditioning programs ? NO
Better technology? NO
SO, then…WHEN…
WHO was recruited arrived at …
WHERE they were to LEARN and PERFORM,
WHAT caused such UNDERPERFORMANCE?
Cut to the logical quick…it leaves only this simple answer:
EITHER….
Those who were responsible to hire
those who were expected to coach…
FAILED….
and/or
Those who coached…
those talented recruits…
FAILED….
to evaluate (unlikely) or
“Coach-up” (most likely).
This “hypothesis” is UNDENIABLE TRUTH!!!

Many of the remaining games (if you care to watch) will be relegated to 12:00 on ACCN.

Who going? Bueller? BUELLER?

Section 14

Old Dom and Norfolk lol

Since all week our fans have:

Never going to beat WF

Never watching FSU football again

Said how much we suck

the WRs suck

the DBs suck

the Oline sucks

the coaches ALL suck

Fire the DC

Fire the OC

Heck fire everyone


really no need to post anything about the game since it has all been said and FSU should just give up football




BUT for me

Go Noles! beat Wake!

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Good for him. Signed an extension with the Eagles. Looks like he’s getting $26.9 million guaranteed.

Did I miss it was it early this morning

Has anyone heard if he is back to full go yet ? I know he was banged up at beginning of camp. I mean at this point it would nice to see him get chances with the way the receivers are playing right now.

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Watching Nebraska. Feels very similar to FSU. They’re making good plays on defense and offense. But, penalties are just demolishing them. 4 penalties on the ol in one drive. Three false starts and a personal foul.

I guess these discipline issues are hard to train.