Great question. Auburn had a couple of rough years after Malzahn guided them to the BCS title game, but now he has them on the verge of making the Playoff.
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I didn't mean to sound snarky to you. Was just pointing out what "insiders" look like.Yes, I know that wasn't Charlie Ward. You made a snarky post about insiders and I responded. It was a hint.
There's a good article on the front page now by Ira.
Absolutely Malzahn would be the extreme example if they win their next three games. Pretty impressive (still unlikely to happen).
The reality is that the odds are not in Jimbo's favor to ever win another national championship at FSU- stepping aside from our garnet glasses and just looking at the last 30-40 years of champions.
You'd have to say Urban Meyer, much as it pains me to say it, fits that description...though not at the same school, obviously.
The Bear had 6-win seasons in '69 & '70 before winning three more titles from '73-'79 to add to Bama's three in the early 60's. (There..Had to go a long way back.)
How many active coaches have won a national title, period?
The odds are greater that our next hire will do worse than Jimbo has/will do at FSU.
I would question this if its how Jimbo will do vs has done (obviously has done includes a championship). Absolutely it is unlikely (odds alone) that our next coach wins a natty but I still would argue our next coach has better odds to win a natty at FSU than Jimbo winning another one at FSU. If you don't see the major cracks in the message/infrastructure/culture of the program your head is deep underground. The march to a championship for a coach is a singular peak at a school almost every time (that peak can last a few years but dropping off then getting it again is just so incredibly rare today).
Every FSU coach in my lifetime has won at least one.
Odds are based on math. Prove your point using math if you're so confident in your position.
I don't want Jimbo to leave. Look at UF's hot mess since Oscar left. Miami since up until this year. Look at Nebraska since Solich was run out of town. Texas is doing awesome since Mack "retired".
We really caught lighting in a bottle to have Jimbo winning 50%of the titles Bobby did in his coaching infancy, and playing for a second title (sorry, I count making the first ever four team playoff as playing for a title). We won 27 games in a row, and now produce ridiculous NFL talent once again. Including the wasted 2014 and 2017 defense squads that Kelly could not harness. We have had a bad stretch of QB luck post Winston too. EG was not the answer, JJ was a flop, one guy punches a girl, one certain 5 star has no passion and is in JUCO, and Frenchy got hurt.
The problem is, in my ridiculously uniformed opinion, I think the divorce made him a way too loyal to friends/brothers like Kelly and Trickett. And that is what has me worried, as someone who does not want him to go.
Because more than money, facilities and competing in SEC, I think the idea of not having to fire Kelly and Trickett would be number 1 on the list of why Jimbo may leave, and why this year I am worried.
We really caught lighting in a bottle to have Jimbo winning 50%of the titles Bobby did in his coaching infancy, and playing for a second title (sorry, I count making the first ever four team playoff as playing for a title). We won 27 games in a row, and now produce ridiculous NFL talent once again. Including the wasted 2014 and 2017 defense squads that Kelly could not harness. We have had a bad stretch of QB luck post Winston too. EG was not the answer, JJ was a flop, one guy punches a girl, one certain 5 star has no passion and is in JUCO, and Frenchy got hurt.
The problem is, in my ridiculously uniformed opinion, I think the divorce made him a way too loyal to friends/brothers like Kelly and Trickett. And that is what has me worried, as someone who does not want him to go.
Because more than money, facilities and competing in SEC, I think the idea of not having to fire Kelly and Trickett would be number 1 on the list of why Jimbo may leave, and why this year I am worried.
I agree, especially the brunette on his arm now. Better Candy than Candi.
Interesting observation/theory that his marriage falling apart may have led him to become more loyal to those around him who he trusts - like Kelly and Trickett, to name a couple. You'd think it might be the opposite, but I hadn't considered that angle.
That, plus all of the assistant coaches on his original staff that bolted at first opportunity.
While I agree it is uncommon, maybe unheard of, to win, then fall badly, then return to the top -I also imagine it isn’t that common to even try. Many of the top younger coaches leave for the $ and the challenge of the NFL. Those who are older get put out to pasture without getting much of a chance to turn things around.
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He led the Hart Foundation to greatness...he can do it here!
Probably, but I have only seen her walking with him post game this season and the big kiss after the Michigan game last year.
+1 I sincerely hope this season was just an anomaly, a perfect storm of issues all around that knocked Jimbo and the team out of sync.
Take out Saban, he isn't human. Everyone gets to the peak of a title (lasted for a few years for Carroll and Meyer) then its over for championships at that school.
Fulmer- Year 7, 10 more years at same school never again
Spurrier- Year 7, 6 more years ""
Stoops- Year 2, 16 more years
Coker- Year 1, 5 more years
Tressell- Year 2, 8 more years
Carroll- Year 3/4, 5 more years
Brown- Year 8, 8 more years
Meyer UF- Year 2/4, 2 more years
Miles- Year 3, 9 more years
Chizik- Year 2, 2 more years
Fisher- Year 4, 4 more years
Meyer OSU- Year 3, 3 more years
Swinney- Year 9
Average first title at the school just over 4 years after coming on board. 62 more years coaching after the title peak for this group without a title at that school.
He's a west coast guy. Recruiting is at least 2/3 of the battle. How would he fare recruiting in the south? Could he rely on someone like Brewster, assuming Brewster would be willing to stay? What would it take to keep Brewster if Jimbo leaves?
The fact remains though that there are only 4 active coaches that have won even 1 national championship. That's out of over 100 on the FBS level. So the odds of finding a fifth are not any better than keeping one of those who already has one.
But one who did it in Florida also did it in Ohio. And many others at large universities in the state have failed miserably trying to get one.
Oh, I have no doubt that there are places (<15?) that have a much higher % chance to win a championship and it is all based on the larger % of 4- 5-star recruits those schools get (the Jimmys and the Joes). But the coaching does matter (see the last few coaches at UF and UM)
So while I do want to have a great known coach and recruiter like Jimbo he showed how quickly FSU could go from where the talent level was in 2006-2010 to where it was in 2013 where there have already been $250M+ in NFL contracts. He also has a much higher % chance to win and make the playoffs at FSU than he does at TA&M.
So while I do want to have a great known coach and recruiter like Jimbo he showed how quickly FSU could go from where the talent level was in 2006-2010 to where it was in 2013 where there have already been $250M+ in NFL contracts. He also has a much higher % chance to win and make the playoffs at FSU than he does at TA&M.
I wish he’d be interested, not going to happen.
Frost
Kiffen (can’t believe I just said that)
Not Strong
Not Sumlin (only because he coached A&M
Not Schiano
Not L Miles
I don’t know.
Can’t believe Jimbo is leaving.
Would he be leaving if we were in the playoff hunt..not at all.
I’ve heard the opposite on loyalty from Fisher. I’ve heard he wanted to make coaching changes last season, but was told no. My speculation on that, if true, is that some assistants have very loyal boosters.
Big time college football has become a business. We as fans don't always see it that way. Especially at FSU given we've had two head coaches in 41 years.
FSU has been very, very fortunate.
FSU has been very, very fortunate.
That is crazy. Before this year, Jimbo was King. Who told him no? Wilcox?? Thrasher?? Miller?? Unless somebody has pictures of Jimbo cheating before he got divorced, no one had the leverage on him, much less a valid reason to tell him no to making much needed coaching changes.
I didn’t say it was true, just saying what I’ve heard and would lend some credibility to his apparent frustration with boosters and the athletic department.
"Sources" are saying she is trying to work out custody agreement on TX move with her ex. Guess they have kids.
