🙂I’ll offer it where I feel like offering it. And I appreciate your sincere condolences.
🙂I’ll offer it where I feel like offering it. And I appreciate your sincere condolences.
One impact was the result of the disease while the other impact was the result of bad policy.Lots of people died too. 🤦‍♂️ Shocking!
More important is what will happen during the next pandemic or crisis. Will we learn anything?Of the people who died, how many of them would have lived 2-3-4-5 more years had Covid-19 never happened? A miniscule number of healthy/vibrant people -- with material future life expectancies -- actually died. Some, yes did, and that's truly sad. And it sucks if someone in "your circle" fell in that super-tiny statistic. But "some" healthy people die every year of the flu, bee stings, allergic reactions and other (random) causes. And that sucks too.
Yet we don't ruin our economy, and our education system, to "save" EVERYONE from random and infinitismally small risks. But we did just that for Covid-19. Was that smart, or worth it?
Completely agree. The policies need to be improved amongst other things.One impact was the result of the disease while the other impact was the result of bad policy.
Completely agree. The policies need to be improved amongst other things.
Information was one sided, and any true discussion by very smart doctors and scientists, that didn't agree with the self appointed experts, was shutdown. The decisions made were way too big, to be made the way they were. The silencing of any dissenting voices was criminal. Many of the opposing voices had the right answers, but they were never allowed to be heard. Hindsight only proves they were correct early in the pandemic response. The rewriting of that reality doesn't work for me, or many other peopleThe science evolved as more was learned but many have 20/20 hindsight when looking at what was done early.
People tend to forget Covid-19 was a Novel Coronavirus. Everything was new. Decisions were made using the information available at the time.
No fair or legitimate discussion was even permitted. If you did not 100% support the “official narrative,” you were a hater, idiot, terrorist, whatever. Complete insanity.Information was one sided, and any true discussion by very smart doctors and scientists, that didn't agree with the self appointed experts, was shutdown. The decisions made were way too big, to be made the way they were. The silencing of any dissenting voices was criminal. Many of the opposing voices had the right answers, but they were never allowed to be heard. Hindsight only proves they were correct early in the pandemic response. The rewriting of that reality doesn't work for me, or many other people
One day maybe we will find out just what role the NIH had in all of this if all the facts truly come out. There are many opinions on what really happened like lab leaks, naturally evolving or completely fabricated by the media. Obviously some opinions seem out there but why not have the discussion? There's always three sides to every story. Of all these theories the truth lies somewhere in the middle.My concern is with the role the CDC/NIH played in this. The CDC is suppose to be the premiere department that synthesizes and sometimes creates the science on contagious diseases. It is tasked to communicate what the science says to the policy makers and secondarily to the public.
But, that is not what it did. It ignored decades of science. Pushed extremely bad scientific studies as a counter narrative to established science. Propagandized social experimentation. Ignored scientific consensus, silenced opposing scientific experts, and suggested that they were science and anything else was anti-science.
And worse of all, the CDC, the media, and indeed many politicians from both sides of the aisle, were telling us that we couldn't be trusted with the truth or even worse, we are too dumb to be told the truth.
However you want to view it you cant bypass the money. Alot of people made alot of money from this. According to the CDC 809M doses of the shot have been distributed. Some estimates was that it would cost between .54 and .98 cents per dose to produce but we know that the US paid around $15 per dose for the shot. That's north of 11 billion just in the US. Now these are not exact numbers but it shows the kind of money involved in just the shots.No fair or legitimate discussion was even permitted. If you did not 100% support the “official narrative,” you were a hater, idiot, terrorist, whatever. Complete insanity.
Seems like a good way to have a discussion. I don't agree with your opinion so I'm not going to discuss it with you. I like how everyone that doesn't fully embrace covid as a deadly pandemic deserving of full lockdowns and mandates are lumped into the "covid denier" category.I can only speak personally but unless she succumbed to an freak accident, my healthy 40 year old (RN) sister in law would still be here. I have spoken to many who are in the same boat. This despite you claiming the opposite.
My take will always be that too many people worldwide died of this thing unnecessarily. Life is too valuable to be as flippant and dismissive as your take. And you and all the other Covid deniers aren’t going to change my view. And while I am glad that the virus only has financial ramifications for you personally, many more were hurt in a much more profound way.
in the future I think it is best if we don’t exchange thoughts on this. Your take is not one I respect or care about. Wasn’t when you were Johnnieholmesnole and isn’t today. Think it is best it is left at that.